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I started out last wednesday on the Master Cleanse. Now that I'm done with that, Phase 1 food looks amazing. I'm about to go make myself some eggs! Yesterday, I ended the cleanse with a small chicken salad for lunch and a fish salad for dinner. Yum. At the end of the cleanse, I weighed 189lbs.
In fact, I started out at 201lbs and currently, I'm at 186lbs this morning. That's 15lbs I've lost and kept off. Woo!
My goal is to get to 170-175 and just maintain from there. The rest of my weight is pretty much belly fat and a little side fat under the arms (side boobs).
I'm very close to being rid of my love handles and side boobs altogether! So I'm going to stay on Phase 1 for as long as I can and then start introducing a couple of Phase 2 foods in.
I honestly never thought I'd be this far along on any diet, but I suppose that's what happens when you stop treating it like a "diet" and change the way you eat in general. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:16 pm |
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| DebbyC
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from wikipedia....and all I can say is [color=violet]OMG
seriuosly, people will do anything to take a big crap and lose some water weight. The thought of a 32 oz saline morning beverage [a "top down enema"] baffles the mind and I pray that people with blood pressure or heart problems don't die with the first sodium overload.[/color]
so from wikipedia.....
The Master Cleanse claims to be a way to cleanse the body of toxins and remove the cravings associated with drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and eating junk food. "Coffee, tea, and various cola drinks, as habit-forming beverages, also lose their appeal through the marvels of the lemonade diet."[2] The cleanse involves drinking only lemonade made from fresh lemon juice, Grade B maple syrup, water and Cayenne pepper. No solid food can be eaten for the duration of the cleanse. The lemonade is best taken at room temperature. The master cleanse is technically not a "fast" and proponents say it is more gentle on the body because it does contain some essential vitamins and minerals. According to proponents it is recommended to be on the cleanse for a minimum of ten days, but it is not uncommon for people to stay on the cleanse for longer periods of time, even as long as 45 days. A good indicator of when you should end the cleanse is when the coating on your tongue clears up and your tongue is nice and pink in the morning. This indicates that your body has cleared out most toxins. But you must judge for yourself when to end the diet.[3]
Since there is no intake of solid food, special precautions are taken to avoid constipation. Laxative tea, which is optional, is taken every night, and in the morning a quick drink of 32 ounces of lukewarm sea salt water serve as a top-down enema. This passes through the digestive system extremely quickly, usually causing defecation in 30-60 minutes.[3] Many individuals don't require the laxative tea as long as the salt water has the desired effect.
It is essential to go off of the cleanse slowly. The lack of solid foods for such long periods requires careful breaking, as gut flora need to re-develop and mucus linings re-build. This usually involves drinking "full strength" juices for a day or two, while slowly adding in soups, then fruit, vegetables and nuts before resuming a regular diet. Some practitioners add probiotics at this time to help re-establish a healthy intestinal culture. [2][3] Some individuals have returned to their healthy diet the following day after stopping the program without any problems, but this is rare and not recommended especially for first timers. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:26 pm |
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| skizzledub
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Thanks?
I've read that and have done a ton more research. I can honestly say I'm fine and dandy. I'm avoiding eating anything that would be too harsh on my digestive system and keeping my meals light. That way, I avoid any trouble.
Also, you don't retain the salt water, trust me. It pretty much goes right through you. My only concern there was losing electrolytes.
Anyway, not sure if you're trying to flame me or whatever, but I do feel really good and will continue on with South Beach, Phase 1.
:) |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:40 pm |
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| rainbow~beach
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| You have to drink salt water every morning? :shock: |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:43 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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skizzledub wrote: So I'm going to stay on Phase 1 for as long as I can and then start introducing a couple of Phase 2 foods in.
you do know that doing that is not the South Beach Way.
that you should only do phase 1 for 2 weeks then with the slow transition you will take about 6 weeks to get to a full phase 2. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:45 pm |
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| DebbyC
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scott, I"m not just flaming you, I'm flaming the "diet". Do a little more research....your intestines absorb nutrients, electrolytes - everything - so even if you pooped a quart every morning, your intestines absorbed salt/sodium. If you had any medical condition that was affected by an elevated sodium level or just out of whack electrolyte levels, you could be in severe medical problems right now. I think that entire diet plan is inflammatory and risky to a huge component of the population. It is not adequately nutritious to sustain for weeks, it does not burn fat, it simply washes out the gut and overloads the body with sodium.
Some people should just be shot before they publish garbage that could be detrimental to the health of the general population.
And I bet there's warnings all in the book to prevent said doctor from getting slammed with med mal lawsuits, but people who post the information all over the internet contribute to possibility of gullible uninformed people risking their health - for a couple of weeks of good craps. Excuse me, but as a health professional I find it disturbing. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:56 pm |
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| luvs_torun
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I've often wondered why someone would do that to themselves.... with no "medical" indications for it :? ........
From the Mayo Clinic..
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colon-cleansing/AN00065
About Colon cleansing: Is it helpful or harmful?
Question:
I've read many negative things about colon cleansing, but I don't believe any of them. Colon cleansing generally sounds like a good way to clear toxins from your body. What do you think?
- Dan / Georgia
Mayo Clinic gastroenterologist Michael Picco, M.D., and colleagues answer select questions from readers.
Answer:
Proponents believe colon cleansing provides health benefits — by removing toxins from their bodies, and boosting their energy and their immune systems. But doctors take a different view.
Although doctors may recommend colon cleansing in preparation for a medical examination of the colon, most don't recommend colon cleansing for better health or to prevent disease. This is because:
It's unnecessary. Your colon doesn't require enemas or special diets or pills to eliminate waste material and bacteria. It does this naturally on its own.
It may be harmful. Your colon absorbs water and sodium to maintain your body's fluid and electrolyte balance. Some colon-cleansing programs disrupt this balance, causing dehydration and salt depletion. Long-term or excessive cleansing programs can lead to problems such as anemia, malnutrition and heart failure.
If constipation is your concern, you can help prevent constipation without colon cleansing. Drink plenty of water and eat a diet rich in fiber. The Institute of Medicine offers these daily fiber recommendations:
38 grams for men and 25 grams for women 50 and younger
30 grams for men and 21 grams for women 51 and older |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:12 pm |
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| skizzledub
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I talked to my own doctor and he was fine with it as long as I did it the right way and didn't exert myself too much. I wouldn't do anything like this without talking to an expert first.
Also -- luckily, I'm good friends with a nutritionist at work and they were fine with it as well. They were more concerned that I was over weight than anything.
Don't believe everything you read, especially on Wikipedia. :)
If I'm giving you guys a bad vibe on this forum, I'll happily remove myself. I just thought it would be a good place to talk to other people about the South Beach diet, but so far, I'm feeling pretty unwelcome.
Just let me know. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:18 pm |
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| DebbyC
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sorry, I can tolerate "fad" diets that aren't really detrimental and I have enough sense to go look at the pro's and con's of things before I do really really stupid stuff....but some people don't. They see someone spout off about how this changed their life or someone who calls themself "doctor" says this is great for you [and remember, calling oneself doctor could mean they have a phd in underwater basket weaving] and they fall for it.
On one hand I have both great sympathy and irritation at people who don't know better than to fall for such claims. On the other hand, I have complete distain for a person who would "advise" such, then cover themselves with legal jargon to prevent being responsible. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:20 pm |
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| skizzledub
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ladybugnessa wrote: skizzledub wrote: So I'm going to stay on Phase 1 for as long as I can and then start introducing a couple of Phase 2 foods in.
you do know that doing that is not the South Beach Way.
that you should only do phase 1 for 2 weeks then with the slow transition you will take about 6 weeks to get to a full phase 2.
Yup. I doubt it will take me two weeks to see the results I'd like.
I have both the South Beach book and the South Beach Recipes book (which is awesome btw), so I don't have any slip-ups. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:22 pm |
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| DebbyC
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skizzledub wrote: If I'm giving you guys a bad vibe on this forum, I'll happily remove myself. I just thought it would be a good place to talk to other people about the South Beach diet, but so far, I'm feeling pretty unwelcome.
Just let me know.
Sure, we can talk about SBD....because from the initial posts, it's not clear that you know the program....p1 is 2 weeks, then moving gradually into p2 over a 4-6 week period of time....
and FWIW I've been working in the medical malpractic world for nearly 20 years....for every expert opinion that one qualified and published professional has to say, there is an equally qualified and published expert on the complete opposite side of the fence. If you trust your nutritionist and physician [assuming by doctor you mean physician] then that's what is important. It puts them at less risk if they have your trust. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:25 pm |
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| skizzledub
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DebbyC wrote: sorry, I can tolerate "fad" diets that aren't really detrimental and I have enough sense to go look at the pro's and con's of things before I do really really stupid stuff....but some people don't. They see someone spout off about how this changed their life or someone who calls themself "doctor" says this is great for you [and remember, calling oneself doctor could mean they have a phd in underwater basket weaving] and they fall for it.
If you want to get technical, it's more of a "crash" diet. :)
Yes, I realize that someone could have a PHD in many things but I'm talking about my General Practitioner.
I think I get it though -- you're trying to warn anyone who might read this and think "hey! he did it, why don't I?"
If that's the case, I can understand where you're coming from.
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On one hand I have both great sympathy and irritation at people who don't know better than to fall for such claims. On the other hand, I have complete distain for a person who would "advise" such, then cover themselves with legal jargon to prevent being responsible.
Not sure what you mean by "fall for such claims." Are you insinuating that I'm lying or that my doctor was lying? |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:29 pm |
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| DebbyC
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luvs torun - here's Mayo's response specifically to the lemonade, maple syrup/master cleanse diet. I will now stop beating a dehydrated sodium overloaded dead horse
Detoxification, or detox, diets are touted by many as a way to remove "toxins" from the body. This practice stems from the belief that the food you consume contains a range of harmful substances, which accumulate in your body, causing fatigue, headaches, nausea and even disease. But there's no evidence that this is true or that detox diets have any health benefits. Also, in some cases, detox diets can have harmful side effects.
Detox diets vary. But the basic premise is to temporarily give up certain foods that are thought to contain "toxins," such as meat, sugar, certain grains, dairy products and caffeine. Detox diets typically start with fasting followed by a strict diet of raw vegetables, fruit and fruit juices, and water. In addition, some detox diets advocate using herbal laxatives, antioxidants and colon cleansing (enemas) to help "clean" out the intestine and liver. The duration of such regimens often ranges from seven to 10 days.
Some people report they feel better, "lighter," and more focused and energetic during and after detox diets. This may be due to their belief that they are doing something good for their bodies. But it may also be due to eating little — if anything — for several days. Calorie restriction can lead to heightened feelings of psychological well-being.
There is no evidence, however, that detox diets actually remove toxins from the body. Most ingested toxins are efficiently and effectively removed by the kidneys and liver and excreted in urine and stool.
Early side effects of fasting include headaches. Prolonged fasting or severe calorie restriction can result in anemia, low blood sugar and irregular heartbeat. Before going on a fast or detox diet, talk to your doctor.
The best diet is one based on fruits and vegetables, whole grains, lean sources of protein and unsaturated fats. Add regular exercise and stress reduction techniques, and you have a solid foundation for good health. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:29 pm |
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| rainbow~beach
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skizzledub wrote: ladybugnessa wrote: skizzledub wrote: So I'm going to stay on Phase 1 for as long as I can and then start introducing a couple of Phase 2 foods in.
you do know that doing that is not the South Beach Way.
that you should only do phase 1 for 2 weeks then with the slow transition you will take about 6 weeks to get to a full phase 2.
Yup. I doubt it will take me two weeks to see the results I'd like.
I have both the South Beach book and the South Beach Recipes book (which is awesome btw), so I don't have any slip-ups.
We'd all like to see faster results, but the weight didn't go on overnight, and it won't come off overnight. I am over 300 pounds, I need to lose more than half my body weight, I'd LOVE to see it melt off within a couple of months, but I am not prepared to compromise my health and future metabolism by staying on P1.
If you decide to stay on P1 longer than 2 weeks, you aren't doing South Beach. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:32 pm |
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| skizzledub
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DebbyC wrote: skizzledub wrote: If I'm giving you guys a bad vibe on this forum, I'll happily remove myself. I just thought it would be a good place to talk to other people about the South Beach diet, but so far, I'm feeling pretty unwelcome.
Just let me know.
Sure, we can talk about SBD....because from the initial posts, it's not clear that you know the program....p1 is 2 weeks, then moving gradually into p2 over a 4-6 week period of time....
Sorry about my wording in my initial post. It won't happen again.
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and FWIW I've been working in the medical malpractic world for nearly 20 years....for every expert opinion that one qualified and published professional has to say, there is an equally qualified and published expert on the complete opposite side of the fence. If you trust your nutritionist and physician [assuming by doctor you mean physician] then that's what is important. It puts them at less risk if they have your trust.
I do trust them -- they're smart people. :)
Gotta go to work! I'll catch up in a bit. |
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Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:33 pm |
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