| Kev2380
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I was wondering how the buddy thing is working for people, I see people posting threads about wanting buddies, but it looks like after a few post it dies. Are people sending each other PM's. I would like to start a buddy thing, but I'd like it to be more of a motivation and brainstorming of things to eat for the next day that follow the SBD. I think this would be more beneficial then just posting what happened the day before. I would like to talk about what would be good for tomorrow. It's the past that got me into being overweight, I want to look forward.
For example, I had whole wheat toast with butter and honey this morning and yogurt, now I'm contemplating on what to have for lunch, I could got get a salad from the local cafe, or go to a chinese place and get some grilled chicken and veggies, or go to subway and get a 6inch chicken sub with veggies on a whole wheat bun. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 3:12 pm |
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| DebbyC
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Kev, I think a lot of the buddy conversations turn into the gab threads.
BTW, are you getting ready to start SBD? [asking cause your meal plan for the day isn't beachy...] There is almost a weekly "new" group on the phase 1 board, or you can feel free to jump into anyone of them. I do think some people start p.m'ing each other or email, but the group threads are always good to go to for support and menu ideas - just in case your buddy isn't available when you need to get past that last cookie on the counter!!! |
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Wed May 28, 2008 3:42 pm |
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| RedRox
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I'd go with the salad from the cafe or a salad from subway. There are no breads at subway that meet guidelines and even if they did, a 6" roll would likely be 3+ servings of grains in a single meal and the amount of veggies on it wouldn't make up nearly the 2 cup minimum for lunch.
Personally never "got" the buddy thing. Figured it was my personal journey, but to each their own and it does seem to be helpful to a lot of people. I'm sure you could "hop into" the Gabby Gathering thread. It's kind a general P2 discussion that always seems open to newbs joining in! |
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Wed May 28, 2008 4:25 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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Social Folks like to gab... so we do. a lot. and some of us over the years have become good FRIENDS... so we gab a lot
Kev honey and butter on toast is NOT beachy food...
and one of the things you have to do is PLAN your MEALS IN ADVANCE.... |
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Wed May 28, 2008 4:28 pm |
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| Kev2380
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ladybugnessa wrote: Social Folks like to gab... so we do. a lot. and some of us over the years have become good FRIENDS... so we gab a lot
Kev honey and butter on toast is NOT beachy food...
and one of the things you have to do is PLAN your MEALS IN ADVANCE....
I guess that's my main issue is planning meals in advance, I'm pretty picky and have gotten used to eating the same types of things over and over, so if I can find SBD foods that work for me, I will have no problem eating them repeatedly. I have weird food issues, like I don't like meat unless it's HOT. Where is the information on how many grams equal a serving, how can you tell how many ounces/grams a slice of bread or a peice of fruit is? |
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Wed May 28, 2008 4:56 pm |
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| Magna
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One thing you might consider doing is posting your planned menu, including any snacks you think you might have. You might also consider mentioning other things about your meals, such as whether you at in a restaurant, whether you ate at home, whether you brought your lunch, etc. People can give you an idea of whether the menu is OK as is, or needs changing in some way.
If your problem is that you're bored or unhappy with what you've been eating, post a question asking for suggestions. For example, "I'd kind of like some Italian food/Chinese food/seafood/meat-and-potatoes-type food, etc. Any suggestions for a good lunch?" |
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Wed May 28, 2008 5:05 pm |
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| Kev2380
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Magna,
I have been doing that in my diet journal. I know alot of stuff has not gone with the SBD diet but I have been posting what I've been eating. This holiday weekend was blown out of the water but the items I had prior are what I've been eating.
Here's the link to it.
http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88207 |
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Wed May 28, 2008 5:12 pm |
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| RedRox
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the serving size for grains is a nutritional definition that Dr. A follows. It is 30 gms or 1 ounce regardless of what the "suggested serving size" is on the package. For breads, this is about 1 slice (although most are slightly larger up to about 1.5 servings) You can go to the USDA's my food pyramid site here for a desciption of some approximations of a serving size of grains. http://www.mypyramid.gov/pyramid/grains_counts.html Clicking on the link to see the chart provides even more detail/equivalents.
If you buy a bread, it says on the label how many grams are in a slice or it will say serving size: 2 slices (80 gms) and then you would know a single slice would be 40 gms. For subway you would likely have to go to their website for specifics. But I was just guesstimating knowing that 1 slice is usually at least 1 serving and their rolls are much bigger. I was estimating very conservatively. Their website would also likely have ingredients information that would tell you that their whole wheat or hearty wheat is still mostly "enriched flour" which is basic white, refined flour.
Other suggested amounts (both min's and max's) are given in either the P1 and P2 food list threads themselves or the menu planning template (how to adapt your meal plan) thread, both of which are linked into the FAQ pages. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 5:18 pm |
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| Kev2380
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| Thanks redfox, I will check those faq pages out, I know you probably get tired of telling people to refer to those. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 5:30 pm |
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| RedRox
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| yep I do! ;) |
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Wed May 28, 2008 5:52 pm |
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| wileybosco
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| But still kind enough to do it!!!! Thanks Rox!!!! You help so many. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 6:26 pm |
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| Magna
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I looked at your journal. The good things I see are that you have some good exercise and are trying some good foods, including plenty of good vegetables. On the bad side, though, you weren't following SBD P1 or P2. It looks like a very loose P3 menu. You seem to have started correcting yourself, though.
If you haven't yet read the book, that would be the place to start. You posted this in the P2 discussion, so I assume you either have completed P1 or else you're skipping P1 (which is appropriate for some people).
If all the basics are taken care of and the reason you're eating badly is that you just can't think of what to eat, the next thing you should probably do is to review the food lists in the stickies in this forum. They name foods to enjoy and foods to avoid. Look at the meal-planning template, too. Then plan out some menus for yourself and post them. Be sure to give details - I notice you didn't mention things like quantities or what if anything you were putting on food (sauces, dressings, etc.). People can comment on them and give you suggestions.
Edit: I didn't get around to posting this until a bunch of other people had replied. But I thought I'd post it anyway. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 6:56 pm |
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| Magna
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I don't normally read people's journals, but since you asked for comments.... To pick an example, here's what you posted for May 21:
Quote: B-2 eggs over easy
SN-Dry roasted peanuts
L-Turkey burger on whole wheat bun, let-tomato, salad and cucumbers, vinagrette dressing.
SN-Dry Roasted Peanuts
D-Lean chicken breast and salad
Breakfast should include vegetables. The breakfast you had wasn't very substantial - most people would need a pretty big morning snack after that. You didn't post quantities of peanuts, but it's likely you're over-eating these. (Nuts are very calorie-dense foods, so we watch the serving sizes of those. The limit is 20 peanuts daily, for example. See the food lists.) Was the turkey burger LF? (The fact that it's turkey doesn't necessarily mean LF.) Was the bun really WW? Did you check the ingredients? Also, a bun is at least two servings of bread - probably too many for one meal in early P2 (you were in P2 then, right?) Was the chicken breast was skinless? And finally, what kind of vinaigrette was it, and how much did you have?
Here's an example of one way you could modify this menu to make it P1-appropriate:
B: 2 eggs, 1/2 cup LF refried beans with no-sugar-added salsa, glass of LF/NF milk
S: raw veggies with a little ranch dressing, 10 peanuts
L: LF turkey or sirloin patty with a slice of LF cheese, large salad with 2 Tbsp olive oil & vinegar
S: LF/NF yogurt or 2 Tbsp hummus with raw vegetables
D: 1/2 chicken breast (skin removed), steamed green beans, red peppers, and cauliflower
S: celery with 1 Tbsp of natural peanut butter, glass of LF/NF milk
For P2, you could add fruit for dessert at lunch or dinner, or eat half a WW pita with hummus and veggies for a snack. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 7:02 pm |
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| Kev2380
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Thanks for the suggestions Magna, I was only eating the alotted 20 peanuts at a time for a snack. I knew I wasn't eating enough vegetables at breakfast, that's why I tried to incorporate veggie omelettes. I'm tryin to learn to eat patties without a bun but that seems so retarded. No offense to anyone that loves them but a bun is the best part of a burger. The veggies and ranch is a good suggestion, I do have steamed veggies with dinner many times. The vinagrette I use is Wish Bones Red Wine vinagrette. The WW buns are truely whole wheat, I will check the ingredients when I get home. The main thing for me with this diet is finding things healthy that do not sacrifice taste and flavor. Hence hamburgers with a bun. I would never eat tacos without a shell either, I will try wheat tortillas but I doubt they do not have some ingredient that is not SBD.
The basic thing I've learned with trying this is that it is too strict for me, or that I do not have the discipline to look into the recipes and find what works for me. I now understand while people hire others to do this for them. It is time consuming and daunting. Tons of recipes to view and look over but no way to organize them into easy ways that work for each person. That's why I wish you could put in what foods you like and don't like and SBD would spit out foods for you to eat as well as recipe options to make them. I'm sure someone has the software available and is making a fortune. Most of this looks like excuses, I just call it honesty.
The main reason I went on this diet is becaue my doctor suggested it because of the high triglyceride count 298, I have never really had issues with my weight my whole life and when my doctor told me to lose weight, my first reaction was defensive. I do have high blood pressure and I'm sure it's attributed to the weight. It's really weird because I guess I hide it well, my arms and legs look thin, my face is fatter than it used to be but you wouldn't know that unless you've known me for years, my fat seems to be really isolated to the obdominal area which made the SBD sound very appealing. I will try to be more strict to the SBD guidelines, I'm pretty sure I will ony use the rules I feel are easy for me to follow. If anyone has any books or things they'd like to suggest, I'm open for advice. Right now my main philosophy is to get into a exercise routine that keeps me active 4 days a week and eat healthier while increasing my matabolism and hopefully shed pounds that way.
Sorry for the rambling. |
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Wed May 28, 2008 8:07 pm |
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| ThinkTink
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RedRox wrote: I'm sure you could "hop into" the Gabby Gathering thread. It's kind a general P2 discussion that always seems open to newbs joining in!
Kev, you absolutly could come to the "Gabby Gathering" thread. We are all in different areas of SB (some just starting PH2, some have been going for over a year). We support one another. Post and tweak our menus. We do "gab" a lot (consider the title of the thread). We don't have any men who have joined us yet, we're always open to views from "the other side" :lol:. C'Mon over and poke your head in.
Good luck!
Brigitte |
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Wed May 28, 2008 8:32 pm |
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