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kellahhh      

I am in my 9th week of phase II, and at a very long stall (almost the whole 9 weeks of phase II). Can I cut bread out for a few weeks and see if my weight loss starts again? I cannot eat pasta very often it is a trigger food for me.

Mon May 19, 2008 3:08 pm 

DebbyC      

why don't you post your age, weight, amount to lose, typical diet/activity and maybe someone will see where you need to tweak. I have made a decision to skip bread for now because one slice of bread is almost 2 servings of starch and I'm going to want a sandwich if I'm going to have bread....

Mon May 19, 2008 3:24 pm 

ladybugnessa      

I second what debby said.

we need more info

age, sex, height, weight, activity level, and detailed food menus.

Mon May 19, 2008 3:43 pm 

RedRox      

there is no requirement to eat bread or any flour based products. sticking to more whole "whole grains" and starchy veggies instead is a reasonable alternative. But I wouldn't dump out the whole category of grains and starchy veggies, just the bread along with the pasta! ;)

Mon May 19, 2008 6:38 pm 

Kimboroni      

The OP gave quite a few details in this thread a couple of weeks ago:

http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1043837

Did you try my suggestions? It sounds like you might even be eating 2 slices of bread at once, which isn't recommended.

Mon May 19, 2008 8:22 pm 

kellahhh      

Weight: 263
Height : 5' 9"
Pounds to lose to be healthy: 83

Started SB March 3, 2008

Hi! Kimbor I did try your suggestions, I took away my nuts and added 1 serving of broccoli to my salad at lunch. I was not getting 3 fruits in, so I increased my fruit. I was eating 2 slices of bread at once, but I did not know that was bad....I was trying to get all the servings of grain for the day. I had two slices last night, and thats the end of my bread at the house. I noticed last night after I ate, that my face went flushed and turned red, and I got a headache right away. I also got heartburn. I normally skip a grain at lunch, so that is why I double up at supper. I also found out yesterday while I was reading posts that maybe my romaine salad isn't so great for my veggie choice everyday? I was counting that as 2 of my veggies for the day. I eat 3 cups of romiane hearts every day at lunch. I was getting frustrated but only because I had that defeated thought that here I go again and can't lose weight, like somehow my body was created to be fat, which is rediculous. I am obviously doing something that does not work with my chemistry, and although I want someone to tell me its A, B or C. I have given in to the realization that it could be all three. I don't know how to tackle all the possible reasons that I am stalling, except to just start with the carbs. Since, on phase one, I was doing so well. And Kimbor, I was really not wanting to measure stuff, but since your post, I have pulled out all my measuring tools to tighten up! I do not want to go back to phase one, and see no need since my cravings are still gone. I eat late, too, like I usually eat dinner at 8. I get home between 5 and 6, workout and then cook dinner. maybe all these little things add up to no weight loss. I was working out 30 minutes, and now am doing 60. I am trying for 5 days, and last week got in 4. Thanks for listening and for the advice, I really need some support right now. I am at that bridge where my old thougts are trying to pull me to quit, to give up, to "just face it, this is the weight you are stuck at...might as well be eating like you used to"

and my gut is saying NOOOOOO, you have come so far, you can do it...........

Tue May 20, 2008 12:35 pm 

ladybugnessa      

Quote: I normally skip a grain at lunch, so that is why I double up at supper.

i have two grains a day... that's what works for me. doubling up is NOT recomended. If you don't have a grain/starch at lunch... you can skip it...

Quote: I also found out yesterday while I was reading posts that maybe my romaine salad isn't so great for my veggie choice everyday?

my understanding is that ICEBERG is not a great choice but ROMAINE is fine... as long as it's not your ONLY choice....


the thing about this lifestyle is you will go for a while and not lose and have no idea why... just keep on going....

Tue May 20, 2008 12:45 pm 

Ditdah      

Romaine is a good veggie, but that shouldn't be your ONLY veggie. You need to add various veggies to get lots of different vitamins and minerals. If you are just using romaine as your 4 1/2 cups, you're really not eating as healthy as the SBD suggests, and that could be causing a stall.

Some nutrition groups suggest getting a "rainbow" of foods every day. For some people that's a good way to think about it - you need to try and get other "colors" of veggies in - light green romaine, dark green spinach, red tomatoes, yellow squash, purple eggplant... (obviously these are just suggestions - you don't have to run out and buy certain colors of veggies!)

You also need to make sure that you're following the meal planning guidelines. It sounds like you're trying to force things in (like making yourself eat 3 fruits a day and doiubling up on grain) which isn't helpful - you can actually cause stalls by not eating things in the correct proportions at each meal.

http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24136
Quote:
BREAKFAST
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 2 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.
Vegetables: Minimum 1/2 cup or 6-8 oz. tomato or vegetable juice.
Fruit: 1 fruit serving allowed daily (with this meal or other). Gradually increase to 3 total servings for the day.
Starch: 1 starch serving allowed daily (with this meal or other). Gradually increase to 2 or 3 total servings for the day.
Milk/Dairy: 2-3 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)
Fat: 1 tsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine, or oil (optional)

LUNCH
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.
Vegetables: Minimum 2 cups. We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables.
Fruit: 1 fruit serving allowed daily (with this meal or other). Gradually increase to 3 total servings for the day
Starch: 1 starch serving allowed daily (with this meal or other). Gradually increase to 2 or 3 total servings for the day.
Milk/Dairy: 2-3 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)
Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing

DINNER
Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry.
Vegetables: Minimum 2 cups. We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables.
Fruit: 1 fruit serving allowed daily (with this meal or other). Gradually increase to 3 total servings for the day
Starch: 1 starch serving allowed daily (with this meal or other). Gradually increase to 2 or 3 total servings for the day.
Milk/Dairy: 2-3 cups allowed daily (including yogurt)
Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing

SNACKS AND DESSERT: Snacks and dessert are optional. Choose a protein, vegetable, fat-free plain yogurt, artificially sweetened non-fat flavored yogurt, nuts/seeds, or a Sweet Treat. A snack that combines protein (1 oz.) and vegetables is encouraged.

BEVERAGES: Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free drinks are not limited. You can enjoy caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added, but limit to 1 - 2 servings per day.

Tue May 20, 2008 1:10 pm 

kellahhh      

Yes! I feel like I am forcing myself to eat things, to fill up the suggested amount. Thank you, I printed this out, and asked lyquidphyre to email me a blank meal planner.

Tue May 20, 2008 1:56 pm 

kellahhh      

I also wanted to add, about the forcing, that I am full alot of times, but will panic and be like, I did not get this in, so I better eat it, and I am full. Maybe this could be stalling my weight, too!

Tue May 20, 2008 4:22 pm 

Ditdah      

Yeah, from what I've gathered, the only thing we're required to get in a certain amount of is the veggies. (Although proteins and fats are important.) I'll skip a fruit or a grain to make sure I get my veggies in (although that's not often what I WANT to do - just what I know I need to! :lol: )

Tue May 20, 2008 4:25 pm 

kellahhh      

Its amazing how coming on here can make you feel 1000 times better!!! Thanks ya'll!

Tue May 20, 2008 4:39 pm 

Kimboroni      

No one is required to eat 3 servings of fruit and 3 servings of grains/starches daily. Those are "up to" quantities. Depending on people's fuel needs, they might need to eat just 1 or 2 servings of each, or perhaps even more than 3 of each if they exercise a lot.

Tue May 20, 2008 5:46 pm 

ladybugnessa      

Kimboroni wrote: No one is required to eat 3 servings of fruit and 3 servings of grains/starches daily. Those are "up to" quantities. Depending on people's fuel needs, they might need to eat just 1 or 2 servings of each, or perhaps even more than 3 of each if they exercise a lot.

fwiw i normally have 1-2 servings of fruit per day (1 most days) and 1-2 servings of grain/starch most days with my one grain/starch being oatmeal and the other is usually sweet potato or quiona....

many many nights i don't even have it...

Tue May 20, 2008 5:47 pm 

kellahhh      

:wink: I think I found my biggest problem! I am making myself eat all this food I do not need!!! 2 fruits is hard for me, and I was trying to get 3 in! Grains, of course those ar eless filling, so I coudl eat more, ut I was still trying to shove them in with my veggies, and was always past full!!! And so now I feel like I have more freedom, and why I was reading this the wrong way, I have no idea, I think I was worried that I would not be eating nutritious enough, but that's close to impossible on South Beach!! I hope this sets me free of my plateau! I will pst again soon, and again, thanks so much for the help!!

Tue May 20, 2008 6:25 pm 

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