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pookiebear wrote: Adventure wrote: I'd like you to show me the study sweetcheeks.
How do you know my cheeks are sweet?
Adventure wrote: You aware aware that bodybuilding is in actuality horrible for your body right? Most professional bodybuilders have lots of medical issues later on in life.
Afterall you know so much about the topic right?
Extreme body building, sure...
Just like doing anything extreme with a lack of moderation...
Like... eating 2,000+ cals. in a 4 hour period, as an example.
Again, anyone looking to lose body fat and gain lean muscle should eat small meals throughout the day:
Quote: Another way to boost your metabolism is to eat small frequent meals throughout the day. Eat every 2-3 hours tells your body that you are giving it energy and it does not need to store calories as fat. Skipping meals, however, will not result in weight loss because your body will store the fat. Eating frequently will make you feel full and keep hunger at bay.
From: http://weight-loss-methods.suite101.com/article.cfm/eat_frequently_to_lose_weight
Quote: Myth #9: Skipping meals is a good way to lose weight.
Fact: Studies show that people who skip breakfast and eat fewer times during the day tend to be heavier than people who eat a healthy breakfast and eat four or five times a day. This may be because people who skip meals tend to feel hungrier later on, and eat more than they normally would. It may also be that eating many small meals throughout the day helps people control their appetites.
Tip: Eat small meals throughout the day that include a variety of healthy, low-fat, low-calorie foods.
From: http://arthritis.about.com/od/weight/a/weightlossmyths_2.htm
Quote: Q: Eating five to six small meals a day seems like a lot. Won’t I gain weight?
A: This is a popular misconception—that to lose fat and get lean, you have to eat less frequently and adhere to the traditional "three square meal" philosophy. Research has shown that nothing could be further from the truth.
There is a variety of metabolic explanations for why this pattern of eating is so effective for fat loss. First, small frequent meals (SFMs) tend to stabilize both blood sugar and insulin levels throughout the day. When blood sugar levels spike, fat storage is strongly promoted because blood sugar must be kept under very tight control by the body. And if glycogen reserves are full, blood sugar must be stored as fat. These spikes will also cause an overproduction of insulin, usually leading to a rebound hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) effect a few hours after your meal. This can instigate hunger and cravings, cause your energy levels to crash and may slow your metabolism.
In contrast, keeping your blood sugar levels moderate and consistent smoothes out energy levels, keeps insulin levels more constant and helps keep your metabolism humming. When you eat six nutritious, smaller meals a day, the food is more efficiently absorbed and processed by your body than the "three squares" most Americans eat each day. You’ll be creating a metabolic environment that supports healthy fat loss and muscle gains.
from: http://www.bodyforlife.com/nutrition/faq.asp?cmsId=545
To quote Oldpjams "That is just someones opinion."
None of those were scientific studies or contained snippets/links to any scientific studies.
Also in the second one I found this little tid-bit: Myth #10: Eating after 8 p.m. causes weight gain.
Fact: It does not matter what time of day you eat. It is what and how much you eat and how much physical activity you do during the whole day that determines whether you gain, lose, or maintain your weight. No matter when you eat, your body will store extra calories as fat. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:02 pm |
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oldpjams wrote: When SBD becomes passé I'm moving on to the Sex Diet. Just saying.
I'm interested in the phases of that diet, Jams? Is there a stickie? |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:03 pm |
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Adventure wrote: I'd like you to show me the study sweetcheeks.
Afterall you know so much about the topic right?
I'm sorry. with this statement you've lost a lot of credibilty in my eyes.
personal attacks get you nowhere in proving your point. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:03 pm |
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Adventure wrote:
You aware aware that bodybuilding is in actuality horrible for your body right? Most professional bodybuilders have lots of medical issues later on in life.
I'd like you to show me the study sweetcheeks.
Afterall you know so much about the topic right?
Most professional body builders took drugs to enhance their muscle building and THAT is where their health issues came from, not their diet. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:05 pm |
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oldpjams wrote: Adventure wrote: oldpjams wrote: wait...wait....i have to post this again it's too good:
....proven by many testimonials and anecdotal evidence....
I seriously just spit water.
And what exactly is any other diet's effectivness based on but the testimonials and anecdotal evidence?
It is you that is posting "scientific evidence." I only believe what I believe because I've been doing it for five years. You know, results? Longevity? Again, going back to my original posts in the thread, this is why your opinion of the efficacy of the Warrior Diet carries so little weight...you've been doing it for 12 weeks. It's just another diet.
Abs Diet
Alkaline diet
Atkins diet
Best Bet Diet
Blood Type diet
Body for Life
Breatharian diet
Buddhist diet
Cabbage soup diet
The Cambridge Diet
Candida control diet
Cretan diet
Detox diet
Diabetic diet
Diet for a New America
The Diet Smart Plan
DASH Diet
Dr. Hay diet
Fat Resistance Diet
Feingold diet
Fit for Life diet
Flexitarian diet
Food combining diet
Fruitarian diet
Gerson diet
Glycemic Index diet
The Graham Diet
Grapefruit diet
Hacker's diet
Hala diet
Hallelujah diet
High protein diet
Jenny Craig
Joel Fuhrman diet
Junk food diet
Kosher diet
Living foods diet
Low-carbohydrate diet
Low-protein diet
Macrobiotic diet
Master Cleanse
Mediterranean diet
Montignac diet
Natural Foods Diet
Negative calorie diet
No-Grain Diet
Okinawa diet
The Optimal Diet
Organic food diet
Ornish Diet
Paleolithic diet
Perricone diet
Pescetarian diet
Plant-based diet
Pollotarian diet
Prison loaf
Pritikin diet
Rastafarian diet
Raw foodism
Rice Diet
Scarsdale Diet
Sex Diet
Shangri-La Diet
Slimming World diet
Sonoma diet
South Beach diet
Stillman diet
Subway diet
Very low calorie diet
Weigh Down diet
Weight Watchers
Western pattern diet
Zone diet
Like I said I can respect the fact that me only being 3 months in means my personal opinion doesn't carry as much weight as you guys who are years into this diet when you are speaking about your diet.
I never intended to personally represent the diet, the first few posts put that onus on me and forced me to defend what I was doing.
Can I see myself sticking to it? Yes.
But you are right the proof is in the putting, so we will see what happens over time. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:06 pm |
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wileybosco wrote: oldpjams wrote: When SBD becomes passé I'm moving on to the Sex Diet. Just saying.
I'm interested in the phases of that diet, Jams? Is there a stickie?
We can make one.
Excitement (Phase 1)
Plateau (Phase 2)
Orgasmic (Phase 3)
Resolution (Phase 4)
even better, in our diet, nobody will want to stay in P1 forever!
This is the BEST DAY EVER! |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:06 pm |
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Adventure wrote:
Can I see myself sticking to it? Yes.
But you are right the proof is in the putting, so we will see what happens over time.
That's cool. I wish you luck (I really do). |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:07 pm |
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oldpjams wrote: Adventure wrote:
Can I see myself sticking to it? Yes.
But you are right the proof is in the putting, so we will see what happens over time.
That's cool. I wish you luck (I really do).
Thank you.
Now I'm rather curious about what faults (and vis-a-vis what solutions) you find in the SBD.
If you already have a thread for it please link me to it. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:09 pm |
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oldpjams wrote: wileybosco wrote: oldpjams wrote: When SBD becomes passé I'm moving on to the Sex Diet. Just saying.
I'm interested in the phases of that diet, Jams? Is there a stickie?
We can make one.
Excitement (Phase 1)
Plateau (Phase 2)
Orgasmic (Phase 3)
Resolution (Phase 4)
even better, in our diet, nobody will want to stay in P1 forever!
This is the BEST DAY EVER!
Thanks-I need a cigarette! |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:17 pm |
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Adventure wrote: oldpjams wrote: Adventure wrote:
Can I see myself sticking to it? Yes.
But you are right the proof is in the putting, so we will see what happens over time.
That's cool. I wish you luck (I really do).
Thank you.
Now I'm rather curious about what faults (and vis-a-vis what solutions) you find in the SBD.
If you already have a thread for it please link me to it.
Man, that's like asking for a short novel and it will kill the vibe of this thread.
IMO SBD is a relatively sound eating plan based on a completely unremarkable idea -- eat whole grain, low sugar, lean protein, balanced (tricky concept for some) meals. Eat until you are satisfied rather than stuffed. Have the flexibility to eat off plan. Etc.
That all makes sense and is completely unmarketable. Really. The good doctor had some success in his clinic, got good press, did some extraordinary marketing, had good luck and timing...and this plan, which I believe is better than many but not perfect in any way...took off.
The reason I would recommend this to someone is that the food choices are relatively healthy (or can be) and you can go through this diet without being hungry. In five years I've never really been stuck or troubled by this plan and I've been all over the world with a fork in my hand, controlled my weight, and competed in sports at a relatively high level.
I think it's sustainable. That said, I think I understand the concepts very well, and therefore feel free to break the rules. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:18 pm |
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oldpjams wrote: Adventure wrote: oldpjams wrote: Adventure wrote:
Can I see myself sticking to it? Yes.
But you are right the proof is in the putting, so we will see what happens over time.
That's cool. I wish you luck (I really do).
Thank you.
Now I'm rather curious about what faults (and vis-a-vis what solutions) you find in the SBD.
If you already have a thread for it please link me to it.
Man, that's like asking for a short novel and it will kill the vibe of this thread.
IMO SBD is a relatively sound eating plan based on a completely unremarkable idea -- eat whole grain, low sugar, lean protein, balanced (tricky concept for some) meals. Eat until you are satisfied rather than stuffed. Have the flexibility to eat off plan. Etc.
That all makes sense and is completely unmarketable. Really. The good doctor had some success in his clinic, got good press, did some extraordinary marketing, had good luck and timing...and this plan, which I believe is better than many but not perfect in any way...took off.
The reason I would recommend this to someone is that the food choices are relatively healthy (or can be) and you can go through this diet without being hungry. In five years I've never really been stuck or troubled by this plan and I've been all over the world with a fork in my hand, controlled my weight, and competed in sports at a relatively high level.
I think it's sustainable. That said, I think I understand the concepts very well, and therefore feel free to break the rules.
I think this thread can afford to take some hits.
If need be I can always go and post something to get the vibe back.
Anyways I whole-heartedly agree with the food choices, my personal rule of thumb is avoid anything that needs a lot of processing. I'm not sure I like the whole idea of avoiding fruits, if your interested there are some new studies out that discuss the idea of fruit being a perfect food for humans.
Apparently a study was done with a tribe in Africa where they had them consume nothing but fruit for a few months. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:24 pm |
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Oh, solutions.
If you can eat as described above, in moderation, and exercise, you will become fitter and healthier. As rox likes to point out, that's the last thing anyone wants to hear. That's why we have so many diets with catchy names. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:24 pm |
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Adventure wrote:
Anyways I whole-heartedly agree with the food choices, my personal rule of thumb is avoid anything that needs a lot of processing. I'm not sure I like the whole idea of avoiding fruits, if your interested there are some new studies out that discuss the idea of fruit being a perfect food for humans.
Apparently a study was done with a tribe in Africa where they had them consume nothing but fruit for a few months.
Agreed. You only eliminate fruits for 2 weeks on SBD. I eat a ton of fresh fruit. An unlimited amount, to tell the truth. Way more than SBD suggests. You have to do what works for you. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:27 pm |
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I can agree to that.
Exercise and diet go hand in hand, the key is combining the two properly, and I'm not going to start another flaming war off this but I think a lot of people nowadays are too sedentary and there are a lot of misconceptions floating around.
I know Interval training is slowly working its way to the surface now *finally* but I still see a lot of people shooting for the supposed "fat burn" zones when I work out. Maybe I should move this to the fitness section. |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:30 pm |
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| Of course the population at large is too sedentary. They are almost completely immobile. Yes, the pendulum continues to swing from long slow endurance (now baaad) to intervals (now better). Start a thread. People tend to be less passionate about that discussion. I'm off to go be less sedentary... |
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:36 pm |
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