| DebbyC
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kevin-b wrote: blah blah blah my kids perfect blah blah blah...
kids are kids... they get into trouble... thats what kids do... how bout instead of finding blame with the teacher... teach you boy not to talk in class? thats an idea...
im sorry i grew up in a very strict catholic school system and even at your sons age we got spanked for not following the rules...
ahhh Kevin, if only it were that easy!!!! I do get fed up with the parents of the perfect child....never their fault, always the teacher, or the school, or the system - but I think most parents accept that their child is not perfect, its just so frustrating in some places to work within the system. oh, and embarassing - cause all you hear about from your friends/peers is how wonderful their golden child is - so a NORMAL child seems to be a bad child.
My son is a senior and has had ONE teacher in 12 years that absolutely refused to participate in working with us. J has a wonderful heart, smart as can be - but OMG is he a talker, loves the attention, and honestly - could care less about school as long as he is passing. I've tried to pass on the desire to learn - but "want to" is something you can't teach!!! SOme days, I wish his dad and I had been a little bit more aggressive in discipline - but I was a single mom making excuses and trying to get along....a couple of good spankings would probably have made a difference along the way! In 8th grade he got bus detention for talking on the bus, throwing a piece of paper out the window....I tried to get the school to give him consequences related to the bus - like sweeping and mopping it...but the legalities kept them from doing anything more than making ME a chauffeur! Fortunately, we're in the last year of highschool....i didn't think we'd make it!!! |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:29 pm |
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| Lori83
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Thank you...
As far as the teacher not getting notes or not having correct contact info.. I know she has the right phone and email. I sent her my phone and she has replied to one of my emails so I know she has that correct. She just sent home a party list with my name and phone on it correctly.. home, cell, and husband's cell. I know she knows how to contact us. Even the first email was 2-3 weeks later. I have been patient waiting for replies. I just don't know. I know it would be hard to be in a room full of 1st graders. I would pull my hair out probably!! :shock: lol...
He seems to act a little older than his age. He loves playing just like a normal 1st grader, but he is more sensitive to other kids feelings and seems to understand a lot of things better than most. I really don't know if skipping him would be good though. He really likes his friends and I think it might make him close up.
The school councelor has spoken to him some times before because he is a new student at that school and all new students have to. That is how she knows him. I don't think kids who start Kindergarten there have to, but when a student transfers they do.
The parent teacher meeting is private. Just us and the teacher.
He is active in sports. Football season just ended and he is beginning basketball soon. He has also played soccer. I was trying to think of after school activities but there aren't any clubs at his age for now. At the other school he was in good news club (talked about God), but so far nothing yet at this new school but it is quite a bit smaller.
He really likes learning... nomatter what it is actually... So I could teach him things that they are not teaching him. Actually the states and presidents are not taught at his age and he is already learning those. I really am not sure what to teach him for science. I have been letting him read books about animals and their habitats. I am just not sure on what age is appropriate to teach what and what would help him best.
I want him to have a good understanding of subjects before he is taught in class only because it will be easier for him to understand. I will ask the teacher if he can read extra books though.
He LOVES music and art. As far as music goes we did get him one of those I CAN PLAY learning keyboards that you hook up to the tv. The only problem with that is my 2 year old wants to play it at the same time! lol. As far as art... he loves to draw... not advanced or anything, but he loves to draw... he loves coloring, painting, etc.. I taught him about primary colors and he knows that mixing blue and yellow = green etc... But I didn't get into difficult things.
And about the walking.....
I don't think it will work either.. so far it hasn't so I don't understand why the teacher hasn't told us so we could try something here too. Since I just found out he has gotten into trouble, however, I can't watch him 24/7 and make sure he is in check. I wish I could... believe me! lol... I do.. But I know my kid and walking is not going to help. I honestly don't think it is that he has too much energy and it can wear him out... He just likes talking and chatting. If you can tell by a few of my lengthy posts.. he gets it from me. :lol: However, I was extremely quiet/shy in school. :?: |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:50 pm |
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| Jadzia
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Seems your doing your great with your son, Lori.
Keeping doing what your are doing (you're doing more than most parent I've met !). Of course, talking with the teacher will help.
But there a part your son has to do by himself. Some kids are quick to learn an follow the school rules, so kids aren't.
I talk a lot, but was very quiet in school. All being said and done, as a rule, boys are usually more noisy and active in school, girls more quiet.
About skipping a year, follow your own feeling. There's no much school that push kids to do it anyways, and it isn't recommended to skip more than one class in the whole elementary school so if it ever comes to that point, you'll have more than enough time to decide :wink:
Changing behavior is the hardest thing to do... As long as it doesn't affect his grades, his relations with his friends and his overall behavior, it's not such a big issue IMO. Of course, he'll have to face the consequence of his actions in the classroom !
As my stepdaughter told me this morning, "there's always at least one who's always talking in class". Seems in your son's class, he's the one ! |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:09 pm |
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| Lori83
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Jadzia wrote: Seems your doing your great with your son, Lori.
Keeping doing what your are doing (you're doing more than most parent I've met !). Of course, talking with the teacher will help.
But there a part your son has to do by himself. Some kids are quick to learn an follow the school rules, so kids aren't.
I talk a lot, but was very quiet in school. All being said and done, as a rule, boys are usually more noisy and active in school, girls more quiet.
About skipping a year, follow your own feeling. There's no much school that push kids to do it anyways, and it isn't recommended to skip more than one class in the whole elementary school so if it ever comes to that point, you'll have more than enough time to decide :wink:
Changing behavior is the hardest thing to do... As long as it doesn't affect his grades, his relations with his friends and his overall behavior, it's not such a big issue IMO. Of course, he'll have to face the consequence of his actions in the classroom !
As my stepdaughter told me this morning, "there's always at least one who's always talking in class". Seems in your son's class, he's the one !
Thank You :) I do try my best to help him be prepared. Seems like he is the one in class who is always talking! lol... I know at home he is... We joke about it sometimes an tell him.. CALM DOWN.. take a breath! lol |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:52 pm |
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| DebbyC
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are you pretty strict about his diet? schools are so quick to want to settle kids down with meds - but I always refused....I know some kids are very sensitive to food dyes, sugars, etc...allergies show up in many ways. there are some websites out there with dietary information to help rule that out as a cause. Or maybe he's just going to be a talker....and you and the teacher will have to work on consequences and rewards for controlling it.
If you're teaching him so far ahead of his school anyway, have you considered homeschooling? If he already knows more than the rest of the kids in his class, it sounds like maybe he doesn't have enough to do...or maybe look for an advanced placement/private school that can keep up with your program. |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:07 pm |
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| kevin-b
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| good job!! now youre making sense... im sorry but your first few posts lori were, at least they came across to me as "how dare this teacher feel my kid needs to see someone"... |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:23 pm |
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| Lori83
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I know it isn't his diet... I do know all kids get hyped up on sugar, but it's not like that all the time with him... See, he isn't hyper. He just talks a lot. He really isn't hyped up... He just likes to ask questions, tell stories, eplain things, inform people.. for example... When he first meets someone here is the typical intro:
Hi! My name is First Middle Last and I am 6 years old. My baby brothers name is First. He was named after so and so.. I go to school at blah blah blah elementary. This is my mommy her name is Lori. This is my daddy his name is blah blah.. and we try to cut him off but he could go for what seems an eternity lol :shock:
and this is to people in public or something.. For example... we were at a restaurant about a month ago and this older couple was sitting about 10 feet from us. They come over after they finished and said: "We just wanted to come over and tell you that you have very well-behaved kids and should be proud" (I am not kidding when I say this that actually happened. That also happened a few other times.. once at the BMV!)
Well, my son starts his usual speech to inform them of all of our personal info and of course we stop him. He just loves talking. He will do what we ask when we are there to correct his bahavior (most of the time lol :wink: ) but we can't be in the classroom and the best we can do is find out from the teacher. I will talk to the teacher in a few days and hopefully let the teacher know that we can help him if we know there is a problem. Thanks everyone.. I will let you know how it goes. |
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:56 pm |
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| mokajava
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My son is 7 years old and he does the same thing...The teacher may thought that 1 response was enough however she could have advised you that the issue would have beendiscussed at the parent/teacher meeting...
A talkative child is a child who needs to be shown boundaries in social settings ( he seems to not only do this when he is at school but outside of school also). It is something that you and the teacher may work together. Your child seems like a bright child however ALL children have something they need to work on and have some immaturity in them somewhere. With gentle and persistent guidance this issue will eventually go away with time. He needs to be continuously reminded how his talking affects other people. The teacher needs to teach instead of being continuosly interrupted.....strangers should not know our personal business.....the mailman does not need to know we are having sushi tonight !! etc .... :lol: :lol: As he gets older he will understand his boundaries. Just keep on trudging ! :wink: |
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:03 pm |
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| cowboymom
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| Things like this are why I am homeschooling now. My son went from K-3 and my daughter K-1, none of us could take any more. One issue after another... my kids aren't perfect by any means but I could not get in step with the school system at all and it was starting to be detrimental to all of us. My daughter is a talker... so's Oprah. :roll: |
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:04 am |
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| Lori83
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Ok.. UPDATE...
I had the parent teacher conference tonight.. and she didn't recommend him because of his talking (eventhough we all agree he is a talker!) lol..
She said that he is very particular about things. He is very intense. She said when he has something set in his mind that is right, then he is determined to do it. He is almost unwilling to let himself make any mistakes in a way. She wants him to go to the group just to learn that it is okay to loosen up.
For example, when he told me about the telling of answers I told him not to give other kids answers and tell them to do it themselves. Well today in class she told him to help someone with their numbers and he said no that he wasn't allowed to give answers and refused to. When I told her tonight that we had told him not too she says "well that explains it"
I told her he is a really honest kid and she said she can really tell because he was dead set on doing exactly what I told him.
We did find out that he is not at a second grade reading level. He is at a FOURTH grade reading level. She said he is so far above all the kids in his class.. above and beyond. :D She said she is unable to let him read 4th grade books just because of the content issues. She said he would be able to easily read it, but it would be understanding the older situations that he would have some issues since he is so young.
She immediately addressed the questions I had sent her in my notes and emails, so I am not as worried about that and hope that now that she has met us she is more willing to communicate.
He has already mastered all of the academics for the first grade and she is actually recommending him for a gifted program. The only thing he lacks is organization, listening attentively all the time, and slowing down on his homework to do his best. He is such a messy writer when he hurries! She thinks that the group guidance will help him have a little more fun and not be so uptight about things being a particular way. It won't affect his studies and will be in his free time.
I am really considering letting him go to the group guidance thing. If it will help him understand that sometimes there is a gray area and not everything is so black and white, right and wrong all the time I think it would be good for him. We'll see!
(Oh and the talking thing.. I guess it is getting better, and there are a few other kids that sound worse than he is!! :o ) |
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:33 am |
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| ThinkTink
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Soooo glad you got things straightened out!
On the 4th grade reading level stuff -- there are things that he can read! He can read The Hardy Boys series for example, classics like Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland (the bigger books of these), Beverly Cleary. I suggest you get with the librarian. If you don't want your teacher to feel you are going over her head, go to your local library - they will be able to help you. Like I said before - my 3rd grade daughter reads on an 8th grade level. There has only been 1 book (The Princess Diaries) that we have not let her read because of it's "mature" content. At our dd's school their higher up level books are marked "mature" and we tell our dd to look for that label - if it says mature, she can't get it. What about the Harry Potter books? I don't know if you let your kids see that style of fantasy but you can get those books in a jr. edition - that would be right up a little boys alley. He is going to get bored with the skinny little books that he's getting and is going to plow through them all in NO TIME! Reading is one of the best gifts you can give your kids, I would hate to have your son stop liking to read because your teacher is unwilling to find something on his level. |
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:43 pm |
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| mokajava
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I'm glad things are sorting themselves out ! :D
My son was tested last year by the school psychologist and he was shown to have a higher I.Q. than the average....it was observed that he was probably quite bored in the classroom so the teacher keeps him occupied with a seperate work book when he finishes his work in class. His passion is not reading ( hates it ). His passion is math so he works on that. For him it's fun and it allows the teacher to be able to do what she has to do without having my son act up.... :wink: |
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:08 pm |
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| LegalBeagle
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| I second what the others posted about letting him read books that are more advanced. My DD was reading on a high school level in elementary school, and we let her read all sorts of things to keep her challenged and interested. |
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:11 pm |
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| Lori83
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| Thanks guys :) We will go to our local library soon to get some books for his level :D I think he will like that! |
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:12 pm |
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