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ladybugnessa wrote: Sal Collaziano wrote: I PMd sbdiet...
Rots o ruck...
I pmed her 8 months ago about something, i'm still waiting.
Maybe he/she responds more quickly to mods? What was the issue? |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:55 pm |
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| wileybosco
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| Couldn't you hear my gong??? |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:56 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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redroxco wrote: ladybugnessa wrote: Sal Collaziano wrote: I PMd sbdiet...
Rots o ruck...
I pmed her 8 months ago about something, i'm still waiting.
Maybe he/she responds more quickly to mods? What was the issue?
I don't even REMEMBER! LOL! |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:56 pm |
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Again... Those side-effects you listed come from HGH abuse. No HRT doctor would give a patient the kind of dose required to obtain those symptoms. Bodybuilders who "heavily" abuse HGH "can" (not always) experience those side-effects.
ladybugnessa wrote: now go back and tell me why i would want to put stuff under my skin that is known to cause:
Swelling in your arms and legs
Arthritis-like symptoms
Carpal tunnel symptoms
Headaches
Bloating
Muscle pain
Diabetes
Abnormal growth of bones and internal organs
Hardening of the arteries
High blood pressure |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:58 pm |
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| RedRox
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| And reversing hair loss is just a freebie spam link? |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:00 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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Sal Collaziano wrote: Again... Those side-effects you listed come from HGH abuse. No HRT doctor would give a patient the kind of dose required to obtain those symptoms. Bodybuilders who "heavily" abuse HGH "can" (not always) experience those side-effects.
ladybugnessa wrote: now go back and tell me why i would want to put stuff under my skin that is known to cause:
Swelling in your arms and legs
Arthritis-like symptoms
Carpal tunnel symptoms
Headaches
Bloating
Muscle pain
Diabetes
Abnormal growth of bones and internal organs
Hardening of the arteries
High blood pressure
as someone who reacts poorly to standard medications, I would not even want to risk side effects from an elective drug. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:00 pm |
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| Sal Collaziano
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redroxco wrote: And reversing hair loss is just a freebie spam link?
Are signatures against the rules? I'm not selling an ebook at those links. They're websites with free reading with their hosting paid for by ads. Since when is this a crime or against policy? |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:02 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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Sal Collaziano wrote: redroxco wrote: And reversing hair loss is just a freebie spam link?
Are signatures against the rules? I'm not selling an ebook at those links. They're websites with free reading with their hosting paid for by ads. Since when is this a crime or against policy?
it is if you post it in the general chat area. post it in the spam area. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:08 pm |
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| Sal Collaziano
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I understand your concen and it IS a very valid one. It makes all the sense in the world..
However, bodybuilders take more than 5 times the amount of HGH than an HRT doctor would prescribe you. For example, I've been on 1.5iu's per day where bodybuilders start off at 4-5iu's and go up to 10iu's daily. Even at that dosage, I don't hear much about the side effects mentioned. I do hear about carpal tunnel at high doses. And at VERY high doses, acromegaly (Abnormal growth of bones and internal organs ).
ladybugnessa wrote: Sal Collaziano wrote: Again... Those side-effects you listed come from HGH abuse. No HRT doctor would give a patient the kind of dose required to obtain those symptoms. Bodybuilders who "heavily" abuse HGH "can" (not always) experience those side-effects.
ladybugnessa wrote: now go back and tell me why i would want to put stuff under my skin that is known to cause:
Swelling in your arms and legs
Arthritis-like symptoms
Carpal tunnel symptoms
Headaches
Bloating
Muscle pain
Diabetes
Abnormal growth of bones and internal organs
Hardening of the arteries
High blood pressure
as someone who reacts poorly to standard medications, I would not even want to risk side effects from an elective drug. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:14 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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Sal Collaziano wrote: I understand your concen and it IS a very valid one. It makes all the sense in the world..
However, bodybuilders take more than 5 times the amount of HGH than an HRT doctor would prescribe you. For example, I've been on 1.5iu's per day where bodybuilders start off at 4-5iu's and go up to 10iu's daily. Even at that dosage, I don't hear much about the side effects mentioned. I do hear about carpal tunnel at high doses. And at VERY high doses, acromegaly (Abnormal growth of bones and internal organs ).
ok so tell me why are you so vested in giving this information to strangers and having them go on HRT? |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:16 pm |
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Sal Collaziano wrote: redroxco wrote: And reversing hair loss is just a freebie spam link?
Are signatures against the rules? I'm not selling an ebook at those links. They're websites with free reading with their hosting paid for by ads. Since when is this a crime or against policy?
Nope. But we tend to be more tolerant when they are from existing members who offer something to the forum beyond hyping controversial products. It's just very suspect in a first time poster. The fact that they were removed once and then added back in by you also would lead me to believe that it is more about the presence of the links than any altruistic goals on your part. Quite frankly, if I had seen it first before any activity in the thread it would have been deleted first thing. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:24 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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| but because he likes to let us play.. he left you here for us to torture. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:25 pm |
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I'm just making it known that the option is available to those who have a deficiency. Nobody can know this for sure but a blood test from your doctor can tell you if there's an issue. Most people never think of this and I was extremely lethargic, weak and irritable for a long time before somebody told me (like I'm doing here). When I went for my tests, my hormone levels came back low. After being on HRT for a year, I'm feeling much better and it's turned my life around.
It helps on many levels. Being that I'm now a "positive" thinker, I feel HRT has helped on even more levels than it can typically touch on. You know the same. Positive things happen to positive people. There's a book called "The Power Of Positive Thinking" (no, I didn't write it and I'm not an affiliate for it). It really is true (or I believe it, anyway) that there is self-healing power in the confidence that you will get better (from sickness or injury).
I'm rambling... I don't have anything vested other than the possibilty of, one day, HRT being less expensive as it becomes more mainstream. Do I think I'm going to benefit greatly from posting this discussion here? Not really. Maybe karma-wise.. I'm really not benefiting other than that (if you consider that a benefit).
ladybugnessa wrote: Sal Collaziano wrote: I understand your concen and it IS a very valid one. It makes all the sense in the world..
However, bodybuilders take more than 5 times the amount of HGH than an HRT doctor would prescribe you. For example, I've been on 1.5iu's per day where bodybuilders start off at 4-5iu's and go up to 10iu's daily. Even at that dosage, I don't hear much about the side effects mentioned. I do hear about carpal tunnel at high doses. And at VERY high doses, acromegaly (Abnormal growth of bones and internal organs ).
ok so tell me why are you so vested in giving this information to strangers and having them go on HRT? |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:25 pm |
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| ladybugnessa
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| pull your sig line and i'll believe it. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:26 pm |
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| Sal Collaziano
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ladybugnessa wrote: pull your sig line and i'll believe it.
If I was selling anything at my links, I'd understand your request. However, I feel your request is simply a "wanna have it my way" request because you didn't get the better of me.
Look. When all is said and done, the webmaster may come here and feel that all my time spent here today was for my own benefit. Unfortunately, I've wasted a lot of time arguing with you and a couple of others when I would have been happy to answer legitimate questions in regards to HRT.
I'm not the devil. I'm not a drug dealer. And I'm not a spammer. If my signature links are breaking rules, I'll remove them. However, like I said, I'm not selling anything at those links. They're simply notes of what I went through during my weight loss and hair-regrowth episodes. If you don't like them, then I'm sorry to hear that. Don't look at them. Many people write to me thanking me for what I've written and provided for free while many others decide to sell their knowledge as eBooks.
Take it however you like. That's Your prerogative - and has nothing to do with me. If you want to feel that I'm here for my own benefit, go right ahead. At some point or another, somebody is going to have a question - whether they ask it here or via PM because they're now afraid to show any interest. And when this happens, I'll feel good to have helped them. THAT will be my benefit.
You, Nessa, are free to think whatever you like... |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:46 pm |
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