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I just got the Tape of the book and it is excellent but i think the book would be better .
He talks about treating heart disease aggressive mainly with drugs.
Don't discount this approach until you read the book he goes into all aspects of heart disease including heredity. He really gives you hope that there is a cure and you can live a healthy life after heart disease.
It also includes the south beach diet so if you still need to get the book i suggest getting this one even if you don't have heart disease.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:03 pm |
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| RedRox
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| Many western medical doctors take cholesterol lowering drugs prophylactically to lower LDLs even further. They generally aren't paying for them or can at least afford them and the western approach to medicine often looks to drugs/medicines as a first line of defense/offense. It's not surprising to me that he recommends them or that he uses them. Doesn't mean it's right for me! ;) |
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:20 pm |
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| mom41
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| I watched the interview Dr. Agatston did on Larry King last night for this book, and he recommends statin drugs when there is coronary disease risk, and even an aspirin a day. But he does advocate if there is no coronary risk factors or if lifestyle changes are implemented early enough in life, (also for those under age 50), that he believe that statins would not be necessary. He also mentioned that choosing the RIGHT cardiac care provider for you with the RIGHT cardiac prevention skills was very important as well. |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:33 pm |
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| mom41
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redroxco wrote: Many western medical doctors take cholesterol lowering drugs prophylactically to lower LDLs even further. They generally aren't paying for them or can at least afford them and the western approach to medicine often looks to drugs/medicines as a first line of defense/offense. It's not surprising to me that he recommends them or that he uses them. Doesn't mean it's right for me! ;)
You're right red. I think that's why Dr. A mentioned choosing the right cardiac care provider for you is important. One that suggest statins first before diet and lifestyle changes when he does not know your lifestyle or hereditary background would not be a good one for you. Or one that doesn't care about changes in life style or diet habits, and just want to write prescriptions and just collect copays and insurance payments is not a good one either. But did you know there are many physicians, including cardiologist, who give away statins in large quantities and very regularly to those who cannot afford them? Also, the drug companies themselves promote programs for lower income and senior citizens on fixed incomes, that will give them their medication for almost nothing, and most times free?
The drug reps that come to the physicians office will leave tons of samples (and I mean tons every week) with a physician if the physicians say that they write prescriptions regularly for their product. The drug companies that make these cholesterol lowering drugs also get information from the various pharmacies that fill these prescriptions on who writes the most.
The physician I work for, regularly gives away, sometimes 3 to 6 months of medication at one time to patients when she has it. Lately, it has been Lipitor, Zocor & Crestor. We even have a Reasearch Dept that do drugs studies everyday and provide the medication free. We regularly sign up those patients who have to be on these drugs, but cannot afford them, for these studies. Once the study is over, their medication is provided free of charge for another 6 months to a year. Of course the physician gets an incentive to do this, but the patients are benefiting from this as well.
I think it is unfair to say that Western medicine approach is to look at medicine first. According to Dr. A, the British are talking about giving statins to everyone. Also, they are considering a way to put it in the drinking water!
Does that sound like giving anyone a choice to decide whether or not drugs are right for them? It also disqualifies the western medical approach as looking to medicine/drugs first. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:12 am |
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| luvs_torun
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I didn't see the interview......
redroxco wrote: Many western medical doctors take cholesterol lowering drugs prophylactically to lower LDLs even further. They generally aren't paying for them or can at least afford them
but watcha got to back this up with? :wink: |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:46 am |
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| RedRox
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| Just anecdotal stories from my brother whose college roomate is a Doc and his own cardiologist who happens to live a couple houses down from him as well. They both indicated they take them without having elevated cholesterol levels that would typically require prescribing them and suggested that many of their collegues do the same. As mom41 points out, there are more than enough free samples from the drug reps to keep them supplied if need be. Nothing particularly concrete. ;) |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:14 pm |
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| luvs_torun
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Interesting that what with potential risks and side effects of statins (and you can Google those if you like), a perfectly healthy person with a normal cholesterol level would choose to take them "prophylactically"... There would basically be no reason too..... I think the potential risks of the side effects might outweigh any benefits in someone with a healthy LDL.
(though med students and residents can do some "goofy" things).
There are always exceptions I guess.
Quote: Many western medical doctors take cholesterol lowering drugs prophylactically to lower LDLs even further
That's a pretty broad statement without anything particularly "concrete". :wink: :) |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:07 pm |
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| nean
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I have listened to the tapes again and still get more out of them. I have heart disease in the family and my husbands family. This books i think can help everyone to change your outcome.
It gives you hope at recovering from a stroke or heart attack and leading a healthy life without future attacks.
It gives you information that you can take to your doctor and help you to decide what is the best attack approach to your health. |
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Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:02 pm |
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