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| I am not sure. She knew Penny so maybe she is for real. But on this "island" you never know for sure lol. |
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:44 pm |
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| mickiby
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Not to mention the folder ben has on desmonde would have penny in it, so anyone from that side fo thigns would have that amo
maybe they are tricking them. OMG OMG... maybe they are making them feel like the ambush is actually people coming to help them, come with us. we are here to rescue you, woman and children first.. WOMAN GETS THE PREGO"S and they know there is only one baby... OMG WHAT IF!!!!!!!!!
i think i might be on to something, or atleast it seem like it would be a good story line, if not. lol what do you guys think. |
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Sat May 05, 2007 10:37 pm |
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| dene
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Yeh, may be something to that. Especially since they were going to ambush the beach. I still wonder about the comments like Locke's dad made about it being hell, and wonder how the others got so much info on all of them. I keep thinking about my DD's theory of a type of purgatory or something. Even if the writers did deny it, maybe it's close to that. Obviously, they are bringing such supernatural happenings in that we can't figure it out using the rational logic that we know of real life.
By the question coming up about anybody seeing the helicopter crash, it does make me wonder if it was just a ploy. And they make it sound like Jack and Juliette know something beyond what we've heard so far. And the fact that they've made such a point that the plane was found and there were no survivors.
So much to try to figure out. ~Sigh~ |
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Sun May 06, 2007 1:46 am |
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| Linda Lou
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| I was thinking that they were treating Locke a lot like Jesus. Healing Ben - saying that they were waiting for him, "tempting" him with killing his dad. Ooooh - and that would make Ben the devil I guess!!! Not much substance, but just a thought I had. |
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Sun May 06, 2007 2:24 am |
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| mickiby
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it is really hard to say, we all have great ideas, and the puratory idea and hell idea have for sure strong arguments these days.. the whole waiting for him to come as was just mentioned and the devil games to kill someone very interesting.. however, i always thought the others thought of them selfs as good, takign the good people. helping the young ect ect..
so much in my head on this show and we are sooo freakin close to the end of this farkin season!!!!!!! |
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Mon May 07, 2007 1:56 pm |
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| hellolost
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Here is some GREAT News
'Lost' set for three more years
ABC hit expires in 2010
By JOSEF ADALIAN
ABC has set a 2010 end date for hit series 'Lost,' with the drama equally dividing its final 48 episodes into three seasons.
Lindelof
Cuse
In a potentially paradigm-shifting play, ABC has agreed to let the producers of "Lost" set an expiration date for the series -- three years in the future.
Skein will now wrap after the production of 48 additional episodes that will be divided into three, shortened 16-episode seasons. Final episode -- the show's 119th -- will air during the 2009-10 season.
In conjunction with the advance order, "Lost" showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have inked hefty new multi-year overall deals with ABC Television Studio to continue with the series until the end. Duo had made setting a wrap date for the show a condition for staying.
Lindelof and Cuse had wanted "Lost" to end after two more seasons. They're essentially still getting their wish: The 48 episodes they'll produce over the next three years is the same number the show produced during its first two seasons.
ABC execs, however, came up with a way to keep "Lost" on its sked for three more seasons. What's more, the 16-episode arcs will run without repeats (a la "24"), allowing the Alphabet to make the show more of an event.
"In considering the powerful storytelling of 'Lost,' we felt this was the only way to give it a proper creative conclusion," ABC Entertainment prexy Steve McPherson said.
"I always said that we would allow the series to grow and give viewers the most compelling hour possible," he added. "And, due to the unique nature of the series, we knew it would require an end date to keep the integrity and strength of the show consistent throughout, and to give the audience the payoff they deserve. "
McPherson also acknowledged that getting Lindelof and Cuse to reup "was critical to me and the network."
ABC Television Studio prexy Mark Pedowitz shared that sentiment.
"We wanted to make sure we had the team responsible for its success in place for not only the run of the show, but so that each of their future series creations have a home at the studio after 'Lost,' " Pedowitz said.
J.J. Abrams, who co-created "Lost" with Lindelof, defected to Warner Bros. TV last year and has been focusing on a new slate of TV and film projects, including the revival of the "Star Trek" franchise for Paramount Pictures. He told Daily Variety that he fully supported the advance wrap decision.
"It is the right choice for the series and its viewers," he said via an email message. "It takes real foresight and guts to make a call like this. I applaud ABC and Touchstone for making this happen."
Lindelof and Cuse, who are putting the finishing touches on the third-season finale, released a joint statement praising what they termed "a bold and unprecedented move for ABC" and thanking McPherson and Pedowitz for making it.
Cuse added that he hoped more shows will be able to follow the "Lost" lead and declare an end date.
"I think for story-based shows like 'Lost,' as opposed to franchise-based shows like 'ER' or 'CSI,' the audience wants to know when the story is going to be over," Cuse wrote. "When J.K. Rowling announced that there would be seven 'Harry Potter' books, it gave the readers a clear sense of exactly what their investment would be. We want our audience to do the same."
Cuse confirmed that devising an exit strategy for "Lost" was key to reupping with ABC Television Studio.
"In making this deal, Damon and I had two priorities: defining an end point for the show and keeping the quality bar high," Cuse said. "To do that we are both fully committed to the day-to-day running of the show right up until the very end. It's also why the 16 episodes per year was key for us. Because our show is so mythological, and because, unlike '24,' we can't reset each season, we need the extra time fewer episodes affords us to really plan out the specifics of our storytelling."
Lindelof and Cuse made public their desire for an end date during the TV Critics Assn. press tour last winter (Daily Variety, Jan. 15).
Cuse and Lindelof also wanted an end date in order to mollify critics of the show who worried producers were simply spinning their wheels as they worked through the show's layer upon layer of mystery.
ABC execs had already been talking to the producers about the idea, but they seemed taken aback when Lindelof and Cuse made the conversations public.
Indeed, it would be understandable if ABC execs had been initially cool to the concept of an early end date.
After all, with major hits a rarity in the network game, the rule is to keep hits on the air until every last ounce of success has been squeezed from them (e.g., "ER" or "The X-Files").
And despite relentless media snarking this season -- and the fact that "Lost" has lost a chunk of its fall 2005 audience -- the series is still a top-15 hit that dominates its 10 p.m. Wednesday timeslot in key demos.
In its third season, it's still drawing as many young viewers as NBC's newer, more buzzed-about "Heroes" -- and that's not counting the roughly 2.1 million viewers who watch the show after its live broadcast or via free streaming on ABC.com.
ABC could be establishing a new formula by which nets find success through serving up skeins with more and more audacious concepts but shorter lifespans than the traditional network hit.
Already, the traditional syndie business model -- the one that required studios to produce 100 episodes of a show in order to recoup their investment -- seems to be fading away in an age of instant downloads and universal streaming.
That may be one reason, according to Lindelof, that McPherson and Pedowitz "never argued that the show should keep going and going. The issue has always been when it would end and how far out in front of that ending should we herald it."
Now that the end has been announced, Lindelof promised there would be no attempts to extend or continue the "Lost" mythology on air in some other way.
"There will be no extensions or enhancements. That number (48) is absolute," he said. And "once you begin to see where we're going, I think the idea of sequels and spinoffs will completely go away."
So if he, Cuse or Abrams suddenly come up with a killer plot thread that doesn't fit into the new timeline?
"We'll do it as a radio play," Lindelof quipped.
As for "Lost," show's end game is expected to kick into high gear later this month with the broadcast of the season finale. Details of the plot are under wraps, but a person who has read the script described it as a major shakeup to the plot.
"It changes everything," the person said.
Nothing's official yet, but ABC has all but said that the fourth season of "Lost" won't premiere until January or February of next year. |
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Mon May 07, 2007 4:34 pm |
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| mickiby
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I am so thankful for this information. I am really glad to know that they are giving it an end date.
16 week seasons, dude that is killing me. they should do that show in the fall season on monday nights on abs at 9:00 across from 24. cause any other show that plays in the air time.. IE HEROS no matter how good it runs in the fall... 24 comes on and the show is OVER. lol |
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Mon May 07, 2007 5:15 pm |
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| hellolost
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I LOVE HEROES Too :(
Put it on Mondays at 8 :) |
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Mon May 07, 2007 5:43 pm |
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| Linda Lou
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| I'm just happy to know that the writers actually know where this is going! Sometimes I feel like they are just as clueless as we are!!!!! |
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Mon May 07, 2007 8:34 pm |
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| Linda Lou
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| Wow!!! That episode was insane!!!!! I just watched it last night on my TiVo. I had total goosebumps on my arm when Jacob spoke. That was CREEPY!!!!! What do you all make of that? And then I also remember that they went out of their way to show Locke checking out dirt or something on the ground before they went into the shack. Did I miss something there? |
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Sat May 12, 2007 2:47 pm |
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| onesunshinerider
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Did you notice that the man (Richard) Ben ran into after he escaped to look for his dead mother has not aged one bit? And do you think that Locke will die or will the island save him?
I don't know what to make of Jacob. A few questions answered but it just opened up a bunch more for me. :(
If you missed something regarding the dirt, so did I. Maybe it will come into play later. |
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Sun May 13, 2007 8:05 pm |
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| skinnypeep
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Ok here's my theory on the dirt..... maybe it is something that keeps Jacob trapped in that house. Ben seemed very nervous when Locke picked some up. Why would Jacob who is so powerful say "help me"????
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Mon May 14, 2007 12:28 pm |
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| You know, if I die before all these questions are answered, I am going to be really ticked. :lol: |
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Mon May 14, 2007 2:40 pm |
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| mickiby
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Yes, I did notice that gentalmen has not aged one little bit, while of course ben has. I wonder how many of the "natives" have this ability to say ageless....
on the jacob thing... i was thinking that jacob is being trap in some sort of limbo by ben. thus giving ben the "power" that the people seem to think he has. The fact that he not only spoke to john, but john heard him and at that point ben did NOT hear what he told john, this makes john a HUGE threat to the security of what ever Ben thinks he has and the fact that what he did say to him was "help me" makes it even worse on john. I think john will pull thru.
so.. on the no ageing and say reserection theory a few thoughts.... could it be going back to the time traveling continuem?? it for sure could go on the floating in limbo land that they swear it is not. and while i am on it.. you know patch guy. that is what we call him, mc' patchie ( a bit to much greys) see now he was dead see, i do not care what they say, he says or anything that dude was so dead.. and he came back. do you think that chic he shot was easier to shoot cause he knew she would come back to health as well either way. and will we see her again????
another thing that i though of... this is a strech folks but lost is all about hopes of a strech. the little girl that befriended ben, anna or anne could that be whats her face... and her name she said was a short name for her long name??? thus making them friends. they have the same age about them now.. and that answers the.. your mom is dead, as in he killed her or thought she was killed in the massacre but maybe she heard about it and was able to leave, or maybe ben told her so she could live among the wild blah blah.. they didn't tell us much about ben from say 10 till 20 much like jesus.. leaving out critical information for this thought.... but i am wondering. if we ever see that other doll in the set in rousos stuff... we will know. rouso is a last name i think... |
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Mon May 14, 2007 3:23 pm |
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Her first name is Danielle I think, isn't it? Anne could be a form of that.
I wondered if the dirt was lava or volcano ashes? That had been what the teacher was teaching about in class in the little Ben flashback.
Also my DH thinks that Ben has a split personality and Jacob is the good half - and then on top of that he has telekentic powers - like Stephen Kings "Carrie". Which I thought was interesting, cuz wasn't that the book that Juliet's book club was reading? |
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Mon May 14, 2007 9:26 pm |
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