| looneybindropout
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| I am reading through the posts, and finding several "I did SBD, lost X pounds, stopped, gained, now I'm back." This is making me feel a little doubtful. I know people who lost tons on Atkins, and gained it all right back. I don't want to do that. I know the whole life change story. But, it seems to happen a lot on these particular plans. Any thoughts? |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:58 am |
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| Kimboroni
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Any plan where you go back to your old habits when you're "done" will ultimately fail. That's really what it comes down to.
Another reason for failure is "all or nothing" thinking, where people make one little mistake, and then they think they've ruined the whole plan and so they quit.
Sure, there are a lot of people here who are restarting, but we also have quite a few people like myself who have really made it a lifestyle change by being on it longterm. I don't feel deprived, so there's no "when I'm done with this, I can eat (fill in the blank)." I eat all kinds of yummy foods, mostly on-plan but occasionally off-plan, and it works. I know how to eat to live and enjoy it. |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:43 am |
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| gixer
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| I went off plan during the holidays and put some weight back on. I dont know I cant be all that happy eating what is in plan. I like food and beer to much to stay on this plan for the rest of my life. Yes I put a few pounds back on and I am back on plan to get them off. It is harder for me in the winter to keep the weight off as I am not moving around like I do in the warmer months. Its good to adapt some of the things this has into every day life but there has to be a better way also. |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:08 am |
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| RedRox
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gixer wrote: Its good to adapt some of the things this has into every day life but there has to be a better way also.
If there is, please let us know! I really can't think of a better way to eat for the rest of my life than this one. |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:42 am |
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| RedheadSouthBeach
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Here is what I don't understand.
I know a young woman who successfully lost 30 pounds on Atkins. She was very excited and as soon as she hit goal she starting eating pasta, rice, bread, pizza, potato etc. As she started gaining weight she started complaining "this Atkins diet isn't working"
I suggested maybe she try SB so she could have more food choices sooner in her diet. She was very excited to learn all about being able to add different fruits sooner and have yogurt up too three times a day. She started losing weight again and commented how good she felt.
Now she has hit goal again and started eating pasta, rice, bread, pizza, potato etc. AGAIN she is complaining "this SB diet isn't working"
I asked her what part of these two eating plans don't work. Her reply was" " Once you lose all the weight you can't go back to your old way of eating."
All I could think of was DUH ! |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:32 am |
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| gixer
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Thats the problem. If you love pizza and pasta you are stuck.
I used to be able to eat it all the time. I am also not as young as I used to be. |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:05 pm |
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| vickil
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gixer wrote: Thats the problem. If you love pizza and pasta you are stuck.
I used to be able to eat it all the time. I am also not as young as I used to be.
Sucks, doesn't it? We can't eat junk food like some people can without gaining weight. If you love pizza and pasta, and still want to lose weight, you will have to find "close-to" versions of your fav. foods. Like a WW pita crust pizza, with no-sugar-added tomato sauce, veggies, and part-skim mozzarella. Or a small portion of WW pasta with fresh basil and tomatoes. Now doesn't that sound nice? |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:54 pm |
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| RedRox
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RedheadSouthBeach wrote: I asked her what part of these two eating plans don't work. Her reply was" " Once you lose all the weight you can't go back to your old way of eating."
All I could think of was DUH !
I have often posted the Einstein quote about the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If our old ways of eating got us to where we were before we realized we were on the wrong path, why would returning to that path produce any different results than the first time around? The answer of course is that they don't. They produce exactly the same results. If we want different results we have to do something differently. Not just for a little while, but continuously and for as long as we want a different result set. If we no longer want that result set, we can return to our old patterns and experience our old result set. It seems pretty simple, but I guess we all think we can beat the odds or that this time it will be different. The power of the human mind to rationalize our own actions may be the strongest power in the universe! |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:11 pm |
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| paiger81
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I'm a little different. I went off of SB after 7 months because I was on a 2-month plateau, my personal trainer advised me to switch to a 1300 Calorie Meal Plan created by a dietician. I ended up losing 11 pounds(though I'm still not sure if it's cause of the diet or the fact I started exercising), but I felt like crap, and was eating stuff that I knew wasn't good for me. On the 1300 Cal's I could eat potatoes and full fat cheeses.
I was a HUGE bread/pasta eater before my journey, but now WW stuff tastes just as good! |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:13 pm |
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| babice
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LOL! I'm laughing (in a good way) at these posts cuz I relate. Welp. My story on having done well last year, lost weight and now I'm back again starting over (at a higher weight)?
(1) As many have commented, I just danged got lazy and fell back into old habits when work got nutso...that's okay but I never made myself get back on the bandwagon. Believe it or not, my doc even told me to get on the SB diet and I just didn't do it at the time.
***Warning -- may be TMI for some folks *** :lol:
(2) Started having various issues and got on two medicines that have caused me to gain 12 lbs since May. One is a BC pill and the other is a blood pressure medicine (a beta blocker). I'm REALLY hoping and praying that absolutely changing my lifestyle for real this time is going to help me get off of the blood pressure medicine...and I'm seriously thinking of giving up the other as well.
I saw some of those posts you mentioned and I too was concerned that it might cause folks to get discouraged. You know, the thing is, so many of these diets REALLY do work -- but a person absolutely has to stick to it as a lifestyle change for the maintenance to work. For example, I also did LAWL a few years back and I will tell you right now that it works...difference is that I personally was always hungry and got really tired of having to measure and weigh foods and keep a journal and check in all the time....yada, yada, yada. Same ole story, I gained it all back.
BUT, the big point here is not that that particular diet didn't work....it was ME who didn't work. "WORK" being the key word here.
Anyhoo, the reason I'm truly sure I can stick to this one as a lifestyle permanently is because I know that I can stick to phase 1...and I have every single intention of getting back on the bandwagon if I fall off. I did a lot more this time to get ready for this lifestyle change than I did last time. I threw away a very large garbage bag full of stuff from my cabinets, freezer and fridge...last year I don't remember throwing that much away.
I'm just ready for this and I am of the mind set that this is not a diet -- it is a live-it.
I hope that gives some insight into some of us who are starting over. And I hope you don't get discouraged by that. :)
Thanks! |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:16 pm |
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| Paige that is really a completely different situation because you were continuing to try and change things to achieve a different result set. What you were doing (SB) wasn't giving you the results you wanted and so you made a change to try and achieve the results you wanted. You were still making an active decision to improve yourself. You monitored that decision, weighed the effects and consequences and decided that maybe SB had certain benefits (like feeling good!) that the trainer's program didn't. You are still trying to improve yourself and find something that works for you. Way to go! Now if you plateau again on SB and go back to the trainer/dietician's program and expect to feel great on it this time around, then we gotta get you in for some counseling!! ;) Good luck finding something that works for you though! Those long plateaus can be a grind. |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:33 pm |
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| Kimboroni
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RedheadSouthBeach wrote: I asked her what part of these two eating plans don't work. Her reply was" " Once you lose all the weight you can't go back to your old way of eating."
All I could think of was DUH !
LOL, Redhead! I know what you mean! :lol:
I've done a few of those 1000-calorie, starve-yourself diets in my life, and I successfully lost weight. But I didn't learn anything about healthy eating, and the plan wasn't sustainable for more than a certain period of time. It was impossible to continue, and there was no maintenance-type plan for what to do when you were "done." Both SB and Atkins have that important component, and it's something that you can actually make work as a lifestyle. If you don't, then you've failed-- the diet didn't fail.
Gixer, your posts make me sad. I'm wondering if maybe you're being too strict with yourself and not making the plan your own in order to follow it long-term. Like Vicki said, pizza isn't totally off-limits, and you could probably even get away with some thin-crust, greasy, dripping with cheese pizza every now and then. And you could probably get away with beer occasionally too, especially if you enjoy a nice hearty dark beer (Redrox has some posts on this-- I hope I'm remembering right!). These are once in a while treats, but really nothing is totally forbidden forever and ever. The full name of the "avoid" list is actually "avoid or eat rarely."
There's a great Daily Dish in my archives about "treating, not cheating" about changing how you look at off-plan foods. You can incorporate just about anything into the lifestyle without getting off-track, as long as you use your knowledge of the science behind it to do it in a smart way. It's actually really, really flexible. |
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:03 am |
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| gixer
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Hey Kimboroni
I just need to exercise more I guess. Then cheating would not affect me as much. I am gong to check out your Daily Dish and see if I can find some dishes that I can work with. Its tough to be cooking all the time with the way my work schedule is. I also find it harder to get a good meal when I am out of the house. There are no delis around here so that make it tuff to get some thing healthy. I guess if I can find some good meals and cook a bunch at one time and put them in the fridge that would be a better idea and make it a better.
Any one have a good peanut butter chicken receipt?? |
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:13 pm |
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| vickil
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Gixer - here is a link to a Thai Peanut chicken recipe. You'll love it! It involves a little bit of work, but it is oh, so good. Click on this link for the recipe and reviews:
http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5138 |
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:07 pm |
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| gixer
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vickil wrote: Gixer - here is a link to a Thai Peanut chicken recipe. You'll love it! It involves a little bit of work, but it is oh, so good. Click on this link for the recipe and reviews:
http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5138
Thanks
That looks good. |
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:35 pm |
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